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What a great convo on many levels. Especially appreciated deconstructing the black pill psyop--of course they'd have to use another ruse to discredit those who continue to bring the facts as doominators since calling people CTs is no longer effective. Thanks to Mark for admitting that even the savviest of the alt media can be successfully distracted from important issues. It may not have been immediately obvious--at the beginning of the disinformation industrial complex, the rise of alt media, the deplatforming, cancelling, censorship on social media platforms of groups, individuals and pages--who the good guys were (meaning those in it for the sharing of truth instead of for the subscriber and/or sponsor bucks), but it is as plain as day in 2025 for those who realize that not choosing a "team" is the most radical thing you can do. I have followed all of you (and Whitney, and others) at least since 2020, and it makes life much less complicated. Thanks for all you do to keep people informed and unified in maintaining our freedom.

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Want to bring Alaska – The Last Frontier - into the mix. AK has oil and gas as well as other resources (including land for AI data centers?). Remember Trump’s out-of-the-blue announcement for a North American Union, including Greenland. Supposedly the polar caps are warming 4 times as fast as the rest of earth, likely because of geoengineering (man-made climate change).

From a flier recently sent by Senator Sullivan: “The Ted Stevens Center for Artic Security Studies … has at least 40 of the best minds on national defense working at … headquarters on JBER [Anchorage]. … the Department of Homeland Security announced a $46 million Arctic Domain Awareness Center at UAA [university in Anchorage] …” He goes on to say “Our national security interests in the Arctic have never been more critical, demonstrated by the Russian and Chinese military aircraft and ships operating off Alaska’s coasts in recent months. … [So, he was able] to secure $3 billion in military construction investments for Alaska.”

Because the ice is melting this (conveniently) opens the opportunity for resource development and shipping. Indigenous people in AK, Canada (specifically here thinking NW and Yukon), and Greenland have been living here for thousands of years. (NATO Sweeden and Finland are also in the Arctic Circle.) There’s not a lot out here in terms of danger! I suggest that the military (with its blackhole $$$$) and “private” Stargate ($$$$) will be players in this development and want to put this on everyone’s radar.

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Interesting mix of people. I think y'all are smart but forget that a lot of what these tech bros preach is impossible because they are brain dead in the right hemisphere.

I always felt musk and others were ignorant despite their "intelligence".... It's a form of brain disability.

https://posthumousstyle.substack.com/p/are-the-tech-bros-insane

https://posthumousstyle.substack.com/p/neuralink-does-not-read-minds-and

Now this also applies to AI. China's deepseek demonstrated that there's no need for tons of chips and power to do what they marketed as "AI". So why is Ellison (and others) proposing AI centers that have mini nuclear plants(that aren't anywhere near functional yet)? Perhaps they are like the crazies in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy who are destroying planets for a super computer that gives the answer of 42 😂.

Or perhaps they think that they can somehow make AI into a god that can predict the future as we saw in Season 3 of Westworld. It's a religious delusion to seek "god" out "there".

As for smart dust, it's hype. Giordano is a propagandist that hypes up tech that never worked. Sometimes they do this to pump and dump stock prices, like we saw with mRna.

I'm sorry but we shouldn't be promoting that fear porn, unless we see it in action. Same for gain of fiction... If it worked, why the heck did they need to fake COVID in 2020?

Think about it. If they had the tech to control us, they would have used it. The real tech they have is psychological. But they managed to fk that up too.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/covid

Read the transcript below and see what was intended and why did they do it in 2020.

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Did not have time to hear entire recording but just wanted to point out - Musk making an offer for Open AI (his reason given was basically that he doesn’t trust Altman) indicates that they are not all playing on the same team…

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It sure COULD mean that, I agree. But it could also very easily be a simple way to make you think that, especially when it ends up all in one place. Anyone honest can openly consider both very real possibilities.

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Indeed - no one down here can no for sure what these people are thinking/feeling. But the way it was done - as well as using behavioral analysis - it being an orchestrated plan to affect public opinion doesn’t really fit the pattern. I don’t agree with Musk about a lot of things and I certainly don’t trust him - but after a lot of analysis one fact I can determine is that he is his own agent. He has not chosen sides, as he values his independence above all else. If he says he doesn’t trust Altman, he probably doesn’t trust Altman - a logical deduction that isn’t based on trust or belief, but analysis - and of course, always has the possibility of being incorrect.

I’m not really sure what you mean by the “it all ends up in one place” - can you elaborate?

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Not really. It's just showbusiness.

For example, Musk bought Twitter for 40b despite at the time it's value being 500+b.

Also it was odd that it took a while for Elon to get the money, despite supposedly being worth 100b or so at the time.

It's all for show, where oligarchs pretend to be warring and we know that Twitter still censors.

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IMO that’s a very surface interpretation, it’s easy to forget that these are actual people. you also didn’t take into account that net worth isn’t the same as liquid capital. I know it can feel like we’re watching a show, but truth is stranger than fiction, and most often much more nuanced.

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If the oligarch in power doesn't want a change, they wouldn't be putting openAI up for sale.

Another oddity is that Musk got a couple billion from blackrock for his AI plans.

Once again, why bring in investors if AI is going to be super successful? Musk has the money, why ask for outside money (and the loss of control of the product)?

That's why I see it like a show and perhaps a lot of these purchases and sales are pump and dump operations, especially now that China demonstrated that AI is not this crazy rocket science that these tech bros pretend it to be.

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They aren’t putting open AI up for sale. Altman is quite against it and made insulting remarks to Musk about the offer. Musk has since stated he will not pursue attempting to buy open AI if Altman keeps it a nonprofit.

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for somebody worth over 400 billion a couple billion from Blackrock seems fairly inconsequential, more like an investment that is in Black rocks interest than anything they could use to influence Musk.

The interesting thing about Elon Musk is that he values his independence more than anything else - he has not “chosen sides”. this means both “sides” (globalist trans humanist agenda vs sovereign human self driven growth) are still attempting to win his favor. Thus, people have a hard time telling if he is working with agencies that wish to serve others or agencies that only wish to serve themselves - because currently, he does both, and a majority of people find this sort of non-alliance very disconcerting. The vast majority of people are polarized, and watching somebody maintain neutrality while working with both sides doesn’t make sense to the point where they usually project whatever polarity fits a narrative they already have.

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Since these damned micro/nanoplastics are a huge part of chemtrails, fighting/stopping those would help a lot. Getting good with higher powers and higher frequencies and cultivating optimum health would help your body keep this crap out! ALSO NEVER EVER USE A MICROWAVE!

Also join forces with Reinette Senum's SAVE OUR SKIES: https://www.saveourskies.org

https://frankenskies.com

The demonic despots of Davos at it again! Weather warfare: geoengineering/chemtrails are a large component of their anti-life arsenal!

Those WEF monsters need to be depopulated off the planet! Anyone with 2 brain cells would know that 'NET ZERO' is an utterly insane off the charts idiocy, an absolute mathematical, physical, statistical and practical impossibility that can never be achieved or exist in reality!

Can't say this often enough! CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EVEN WORSE FRAUD THAN THE PLANSCAMDEMIC! SO-CALLED GREEN TECH IS A GIGANTIC SCAM! MINING AND MANUFACTURING 'GREEN' PRODUCTS NEEDS COAL, GAS AND OIL AND MINING RARE MINERALS IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN LEGACY PRODUCTS. SCREW YOUR DAMNED GREEN GRIFT AGENDA! https://climateviewer.com

It's always since the dawn of history, been about using knowledge for power and control by the psycho portion of the human population that learned how to manipulate 'normies' to obey them in their power-mad power trips.

In these modern times, this evil has become TECHNOCRACY, the vilest threat to the existence of all life on earth since forever!

EW! GROSS! HELL NO! https://www.technocracy.news

NOT MY BRAIN/MIND! NOT MY BODY! NO WAY, NO HOW, NOT PLAYING YOUR AI QUANTUM STUPID-ASS VIDEO GAMES! I AM LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD CREATING ART AND PERFORMANCES!

The more I learn about this stuff, the more sickened, nauseated and horrified I get, and I wonder what kind of inhuman psychopath loonies make this crap and want to use it!?

THIS IS PURE SATANIC EVIL! IT IS MEANT TO DESTROY BILLIONS OF YEARS OF CREATION IN THE ATTEMPT OF TOTAL SLAVERY CONTROL BY POWER-MAD PSYCHOS!

I DO NOT COMPLY! NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL! May more and more wake up and resist and cultivate their health.

There is a fate worse than death - I would rather die than be a robotized slave of technocratic overlords! This is my hill to die on!

I have a landline and a wired laptop and a wired monitor screen, all the tech anyone should ever want or need. I never had and refuse to ever have one of those infernal mobile devices that are designed to enslave you.

My loathing of AI and all things NANO and digital knows no bounds!

SCREW THE FEAR FAKERY! NO TRUSTING THE WEF RULING CLASS EVER!

Reiterating for the sake of newbies and to support this post.

I have no fear of 'germs' or 'viruses'. One of the best places to go for reality: https://virustruth.net

I try to live without fear! Fear is the mind-killer!

PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGNS BY POWERFUL, WEALTHY CRIMINALS WITH EVIL INTENT CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF HAVOC! QUESTION EVERYTHING!

And these, the criminals behind the NAC and all the other schemes will use hypochondria hysteria and 'climate' hysteria to propagandize the gullible 'sheeple' into complying with TOTAL ENSLAVEMENT which is what this is really about!

A vast majority of so-called leaders and Public 'Serpents' around the world have been bribed, blackmailed/coerced into serving the interests of their technocratic New World Ordure parasite masters and not We the People.

GREED is behind every evil assailing us in the world!

The demonic despots of Davos at it again! They are behind everything bad! At it for decades and cronies like The Rothschilds and the Black Nobility and The Khazarian Mafia have been plotting planetary domination for centuries! ALL BECAUSE OF AVARICE!

We the People must try harder to live by The Golden Rule, doing so would solve most problems!

THEY can't get rid of the 'useless eaters' fast enough! Mistakes were not made, it was always malice aforethought.

AUTISM TSUNAMI/SADS/TURBO CANCER/BIZARRE TERMINAL ILLNESSES: More tragic victims of the ruling parasite genocidal enslavement agenda, sacrificed on the altar of psychopathic greed and hatred of humanity.

Migrant/Entrant Invasion/Infrastructure Attacks - all part of the destructive plot to achieve total slavery!

Apoplectic livid rage hardly describes the intensity of emotions I have had and am having over what these malignant globalists are perpetrating!

There is no noxious crime that the evildoers desiring to lord it over us won't commit to maintain their stranglehold on power. A groundswell critical mass resistance to their murderous enslavement plans is needed urgently!

Creative performing arts, fine arts and literary arts are the best part of being human and the thing the globalist predator technocrat megalomaniac total slavery control freaks most want to destroy.

Too many 'sheeple' are brainwashed to blindly obey authority figures on the media or in daily life in corrupt system ruled by control freak psychopaths who use propaganda lies to enslave their subjects and they are dumbed down to be obedient by 'education' institutions. Fortunately I was raised to question everything. This transcends party lines. We need a system that punishes psychopaths and rewards compassion and sharing, we need a system that actually follows The Constitution in reality.

Kudos to TLAV's heroic efforts and success in the struggle. We the People must always be aware of the existential threats lurking behind this fight!

How I stick my thumb in the eyes of the grotesque billionaire bastards pushing their enslavement agenda and how I embrace being fully human.

Fighting the globalist predator technocrat psychopath megalomaniac TOTAL SLAVERY AGENDA one performance at a time!

Amazing Amy: Eccentric Yoga Entertainer!

As an entertainer, I have been devastated and practically destroyed by the closure of all performance venues and then when they reopened, because MY BODY, MY CHOICE - being made a total untermenschen pariah outcast in NAZI NIGHTMARE LAWLESS 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' JAB CROW APARTHEID/DISCRIMINATION/SEGREGATION HELL NYC WHERE THE MAD/DRUNK WITH POWER TYRANT POLS DOUBLE DOWN ON THEIR ILLEGAL MANDATES. I am trapped here with zero financial resources to leave or do anything else about this 'wish I were dead' endless misery life has become. The tragic irony is that my SPREAD THE YOGA LOVE performances are all about health, miraculously overcoming age (69) and injury to achieve feats of flexibility few can attain at any age. So BIG PHARMA who wants to addict every person on the planet to their toxic products hate people like me who prove that we do not need them if we eat healthy organic food and exercise daily!

https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/amazingamycontortionistuniqueyogadancer

I try and live and embody the creative performing artistic world and life I so fervently want existence to be about.

They can stick their f*cking damned NANO, Digital IDs, AI, jabs and chips up their asses where the sun don't shine!

All manner of lies and propaganda spew forth from the upper echelons in governments worldwide who are completely intertwined with the global criminal ruling class that wants to commit the worst atrocities imaginable and suffer no consequences. And their corruption slithers down the chain of command creating petty tyrants everywhere.

We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!

It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back!

We must never lose sight of the larger picture of the vile malignance we are fighting against.

There is an insidious global ruling class plot to enslave all life on earth behind all the madness and suffering inflicted on We the People.

How to fight back against this TOTAL SLAVERY!

RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! DITCH THE DAMNED 'SMART' PHONES AND THE DAMNED QR CODES AND GO BACK TO LANDLINES OR FLIP PHONES AND USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! INSIST ON CASH! CBDC IS TOTAL SLAVERY!

Other than getting rid of nuclear weapons which I support 100% the rest of the anti-nuclear peace movement and CLIMATE CRISIS propaganda is parroting UN utter GARBAGE, a complete surrender to the ENSLAVEMENT AGENDA by the diabolical despots of Davos - ruling class criminals who lust for total power and control and all of whom should be tried and jailed for life and their malign organizations dismantled: the UN, the WEF, the IMF, the WHO, the BIS, NATO, Blackrock, Vanguard, The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, The Bilderbergers, the CFR et al.

There is an evil predator globalist technocratic elite agenda of eugenics/depopulation/genocide using bioweapon poison jabs, war, geoengineering, EMF radiation, starvation and economic collapse - THE GREAT RESET/AGENDA 2030/4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION to get rid of billions of 'useless eaters' and to use nano tech to turn the survivors into ROBOTIZED COMPLIANT SLAVES! WAKE UP AND RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! These are psychopath megalomaniacs who want to play god by turning all life into digitized metaverse mechanistic synthetic biology to be manipulated by their AI algorithms. A more demonic sickening idea is nearly impossible to imagine!

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APPALLED AND HORRIFIED AT INSANE TYRANNICAL PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TOTALITARIAN CONTROL! REVERSE THIS NOW!

MAKE THE WORLD AND AMERICA 2019 (comparatively speaking), AND FREE AGAIN!

NO, I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MORONIC SCARIANT SHMARIANT MONKEYSHINES! WAKE UP ALREADY!

TOTALLY CONDEMN BIDEN AND ALL OTHER POLS WHO HAVE NO POWER TO LAWLESSLY ACT LIKE AN EMPEROR OR DICTATOR AND DECREE JAB CROW 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' FASCIST SEGREGATION/DISCRIMINATION/APARTHEID VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE NUREMBERG CODES AND EVERY CIVIL RIGHT IMAGINABLE.

NO GREEN NEW DEALS OR BUILD BACK BETTER FROM THE CRIMINAL TECHNOCRAT TYRANTS KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS CRONIES FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.

STOP THE TERRIBLE TYRANNY OF THE TECHNOCRATS GLOBAL AGENDA OF TOTAL SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL USING THE VIRUS AS EXCUSE AND PROPAGANDA TOOL!

NO MUZZLING STIFLING MASK MANDATES! NO FORCED VACCINES! END TORTUROUS DEVASTATING LOCK DOWNS NOW! I WANT MY LIFE BACK.

Links to reinforce my comments.

https://wrenchinthegears.com

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com

https://pandemicfacts.info

https://wearehumanwearefree.org/7-days-campaign/

https://questioningcovid.com

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1581-james-corbett-breaks-down-the-great-reset/

http://www.stopcp.com/GlobalResetPSYOP/GlobalResetPSYOPMindMap.html

https://everydayconcerned.net/2020/09/04/breaking-major-investigative-report-by-association-of-french-reserve-army-officers-finds-covid-19-pandemic-to-have-a-hidden-agenda-for-global-totalitarianism-nanotech-chipping-of-all-5g-irradia/

Pam Popper: https://makeamericansfreeagain.com

Naomi Wolf: https://dailyclout.io

www.nojabforme.info

https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-must-awaken-from-corona-coma-reject-great-reset-robotic-technocracy-assert-common-humanity/5745213

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"free again"

When was America ever free? History shows that it was always a struggle against the government and religions that manipulate and control society.

The Constitution was so lacking that they had to AMEND it with the bill of rights, because people were protesting the lack of rights in the Constitution!

https://www.michaeltsarion.com/constitution-con.html

"We are under a Constitution, but the Constitution is what the judges say it is." - Judge Charles Evans Hughes

“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” ― Benjamin Franklin

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

-Frank Zappa

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That was brilliant...thanks so much guys...Catherine AF is right the more people are aware the less likely they can succeed in their plans...well done all...many thanks ✌️

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Scary times are awaiting humanity. Elite pedos, psychopaths and mentally sick are in charge of the world!

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What is stopping anyone of us from creating a referendum like the Swiss, to have the right to live a digital free life? How do we do that? Let's do that now!

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As for the mRNA shots; Upon hearing that the King of Jordan in his talk with Pres. Trump spoke of taking 2000 Palestinian children who are battling cancer into his country. I immediately saw these children as test subjects and my heart sank. It seems to me that we are in a quagmire of light and dark, all muddled together in an coherrent swirl of complexities born from stacked functions and no informed consent.

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Stellar discussion, with a stellar panel, and a lot to digest. Horrific, disheartening, but everyone's got to sacrifice to fight for the generations before, and the generations to come.

Cheers

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As soon as I heard Trump's exec. order opening up of the drilling for oil on federal lands for export it sure did ring all kinds of exploitation bells for his buds. Will the people see lower gas prices beyond some small amount? Doubt it. They have to keep running us down economically to keep us weak for all of them to stay powerful. Thanks for this great overview.

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Thanks LAV. Here's a MUST READ Report of similar gravity @ https://treeborne.substack.com/p/we-are-in-the-last-stretch-around?r=5nefo

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If you still don't understand why you were mandated...

https://rumble.com/v6ishsj-394359571.html?e9s=src_v1_upp

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Well done! However, your source list is all run together, making it harder to use.

Can you format with line breaks?

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